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it's five past ten

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how long do you want me to do a q a for

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quick 10 minute questions

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since you started this journey right

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have you experienced any weird stuff

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have you had your phones tapped or no

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anything like that no um but then again

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uh a lot of people said to me keep your

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because some of the researchers have

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died in mysterious circumstances but i

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said well if they want to kill me they

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will and it'll make it look like an

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accident but what i say to people is if

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ever i've supposedly committed suicide

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know for certain that i've never commit

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suicide yes i never will so if i

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suddenly turn up suicide you'll know

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that it was mysterious but the reality

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is if somebody wants to take you out

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it is like the films

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somebody can give you an injection it

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won't register in a few hours and

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basically look like you died of a heart

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attack or whatever yeah so if they want

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to take you out they'll take you out but

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i've met people who become very paranoid

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and frank to go out the door almost and

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in reality i'm not prepared to go down

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that line i accept that it's out there

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that it is a bit like jason bourne maybe

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a bit exaggerated but elements of it are

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very real if the intelligence services

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want to take you out the will similarly

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i think one day i might get burgled or

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something like that but

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i'm not going to worry about it no but

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the fact that i can and all these things

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uh hopefully means i'm kind of like

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flagging up to people like you that i'll

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never commit suicide that kind of thing

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so it makes me less of a risk in some

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ways but if they wanted to they could

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certainly do it yeah but i'm not

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prepared to live in a paranoid world

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so any other questions

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the solicitor harry harris what emil

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schweitzer this radar guy i'm on the

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the cylinder video oh yeah the police

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officers yeah police officers yeah yeah

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rotated on its own axis yeah

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i saw exactly the same object in cardiff

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well are you going to take my card and

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email me about that and fill in a report

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form because i do civilian report forms

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so take a cab email me and start a

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there are always people who come to

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as definitely it sounds these kind of

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stories are all over the place

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for a conference it was the first time i

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went in and i saw the caretaker lady

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and i said uh you're going to think this

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is a bit strange but i want to book a

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lecture for ufos oh no i've seen one

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and straight where people regale into a

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and then she said hey my husband saw one

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as well coming over the hills

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straight away getting all these

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anecdotes now these anecdotes

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not just describing lights in the sky

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she was a girl 15 16 years old she was

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having a cheeky cigarette it's a great

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way to remember stuff right cheeky

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cigarette on the doorstep there's

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daylight and she says this ball of light

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came over the rooftops

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literally just 50 feet away and then it

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these anecdotes are real and but my

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favorite case is the pilot cases because

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they just prove it in one if a pilot in

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broad daylight doesn't know what he's

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chasing what he's looking at i mean are

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you aware that pilots have fired on ufos

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and nothing's happened

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colonel oscar santa maria peruvian pilot

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all the documents prove it

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sent up to intercept a daylight

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radar confirmed ufo that's just hovering

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and this is his approach and he's told

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to shoot what he thought was a balloon

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round sphere i thought it was a blue and

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he's told to shoot at it with his

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machine gun count so he does he shoots

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10 000 feet in about three cents

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jumps straight up not something we can

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to get on another run at it and just as

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taking it beyond the flight ceiling of

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his aircraft

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why do you think ufos crash if they're

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so invulnerable no idea

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certainly the early crushers

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effect of our radar

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that somehow affected the gravitational

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that's all that they're speculating in

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some people whispers have said that

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there was the the radar somehow affected

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the guidance system

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using engines in a conventional sense we

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think that they can do these high-speed

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maneuvers because their pull their

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propulsion system is based on

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anti-gravity yeah they create a force

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field around the edge of the craft so

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we're just like flying around at a

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million miles an hour we can do a right

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angle turn but there's no inertia

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so wherever it goes you're not affected

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they there is this talk about free

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energy and another reason why it's

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i mean people say to me well why don't i

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land on the white house law and well the

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obvious answer is if they did they

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while science

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many scientists will say we're the only

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sentient beings blah blah blah that was

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a big argument for many many years

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like an ant on the ground in

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technological terms in development terms

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as to what they are who might be a

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millionaires ahead of us we would be

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like we won't talk to the ant on the

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because the gulf in intelligence we

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would say was too great

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or you know could you talk to her

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it sounds daft but if you've got

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we kill each other when we could feed

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everybody we you know gil the top two

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percent or is it one percent top two

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over the 98 that go

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that's not right we could do something

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it's a whole mess so i think we're very

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probably very good reasons why they they

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pond life i think

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childhoods and by arthur c clarke okay

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um the story goes much what you said at

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the end it's a twist that we are the

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intelligence we are the most developed

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aspect i think that was a product of his

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generation well actually i kind of agree

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that i think we are i think the aliens

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will soon well i hope so

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we'll put it this way it is coming

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and this is what i say about the 2033.

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it's coming yeah i i don't i do agree

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with that and and mainstream are going

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to have to catch up and readdress how

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they look at this reevaluate how they

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look at this subject because they're

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going to have to confront contact and we

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are going to be the first people in

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official history

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that deal with contact it's going to

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happen

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in many of our lifetimes for the first

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time ever official

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and they always say that

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it will be the biggest

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step for mankind

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contact with another species

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species i was talking to somebody the

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other day and they were talking about

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aliens being here

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and they said that they hear but they're

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not allowed to interfere with us

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the process the human body

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the the aliens are not changing i guess

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it's only the human bodies and we're

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ourselves the the on the abduction side

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complicated but there would certainly

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alien species are interested in

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reproductive organs

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hybridization fetuses being removed from

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abductees and then later on being

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reunited with them every few years

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when they see these half human so that

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is

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common all around the world even in

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third world

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where there's no access to media so this

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is real we can't make it up

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you know how can somebody in the middle

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of the amazon

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with no access to tv radio newspapers

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effectively a third world person recount

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the same

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event of being taken on board something

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and being medically examined where did

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they get that infrastructure from

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customers

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right go on uh

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room

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sorry at rim wilson you know

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yeah um

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they did

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okay so so let's check

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it

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out yeah right

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renders and forest can be defined in one

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particular

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so right new zealand uh no

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reynolds

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in essence when you look at the evidence

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renders from forest the fact that it's

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over three days don't matter

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i cut to the chase of evidence straight

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away

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it all hinges on whether it's ufos or

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not

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on one aspect

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does colonel holt on the third night

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with his four other

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officers a lieutenant and three

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sergeants

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are they in a field

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when an object comes towards them

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stops above their heads at a thousand

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feet and casts down a laser beam

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at their feet

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there's only two alternatives

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either holt and his team

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or it happened

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and if it happened

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it ain't a lighthouse

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because what light out and stop above

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your head and put a beam down

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so you just take one little piece of it

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and the lighthouse theory has evaporated

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but let me just tell you a side effect

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on this i've done many documentaries

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over the years

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some with terrestrial tvs like channel 4

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channel 5 right the last two i've got

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involved in channel 4 and channel 5 i

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said to them you've not got a very good

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record of doing decent documentaries on

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ufos

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and they go oh yeah yeah no we're

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serious about this one we're going to

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subscribe oh great okay i said i'll tell

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you i'll give you a challenge

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i said i will give you a world exclusive

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but i'm saying to you you will not use

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it in the final edit

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well we will we will we will

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i said here's the challenge then i'm

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going to show you the field

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where i went with colonel holt i've

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identified the field nobody else has

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this is the field where the being came

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down

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at his feet i'll take you to that

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location it's never been shown in any

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documentary are you interested oh yeah

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we're interested

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should we go film it

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is it in the final edit

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no

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who wins the bet me why

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clever editing because in the final bit

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the presenter goes

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so

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multiple knights multiple witnesses was

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it a ufo

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they could not have used that open-ended

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lighthouse bit if they'd have included

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that sequence

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well that's the whole point

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is the thing is hulk used to take people

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out to the lighthouse for a visit

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so he knew where it was and in reality

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in the weapons storage area

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which i worked on two of them at

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huntington and suffolk same county and

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in la brooke in what was then west

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germany

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you have

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the weapon storage area of the bunkers

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and in the middle of it or at one end of

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it there is at least one tower

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that's manned 24 7 365 years right

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the site is about 38 to 48 30 to 40

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people on shift at any one time that

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proves the numbers alone reynolds

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because the conventional bomb dump 102

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yeah guards

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nuclear weapons garden 365 24 7

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38

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30 to 40 per shift

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all right

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so the numbers were mixed up but the

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tower they have one towel that's higher

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that's about 80 feet high

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and it's purposely higher so that has a

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full 360

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for the guy in the towel and in the top

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of the tower they have a miniature

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layout of the entire site like a model

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and it has all the alarm settings

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that can be triggered by rabbits

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because it's the microwave

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right because they have an outer sterile

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fence in the inner front

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and it's microwaved so if anybody tries

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to break through the fence it triggers

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an alarm the alarm is triggered on this

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big board so the guy in the top of the

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tower is 80 feet the trees are not

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allowed to go more than 40 feet

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so he gets the perspective of 360. so

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the guy in the tower

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knows where the alfred left lighthouse